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Posted: 4/8/2015 9:29 AM
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. . . while "score the basketball" and "over the back" don't bother me like others on here, I would like to add my personal pet peeve when it comes to basketball announcers.

Situation: team A blows an easy basket and team B races to the other end of the court for an easy basket and the announcers suggests we just witnessed a "four-point swing".

Error in their thinking: this statement assumes that team B would not have scored if team A had not blown the original easy basket. Team B could have scored after team A's made basket, no? If so, what we actually witnessed was just a two-point swing. No more, no less.
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Posted: 4/8/2015 11:25 AM
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The fact that "score the basketball" doesn't bother you just kills your credibility. It's Monroe-esque, really.
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Posted: 4/8/2015 11:38 AM
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That's why I cannot stand to watch golf on TV. When the announcer goes "wow-that's a golf shot!" it makes my skin crawl.

Well of course it was-the player used a golf club to hit a golf ball on a golf course.
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Posted: 4/8/2015 12:08 PM
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OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
That's why I cannot stand to watch golf on TV. When the announcer goes "wow-that's a golf shot!" it makes my skin crawl.

Well of course it was-the player used a golf club to hit a golf ball on a golf course.
If you want to get some great, pointing out the obvious, Madden-like quotes, watch any car race on TV, particularly NASCAR.

"That's a racin' move!"
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Posted: 4/8/2015 1:02 PM
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SBH wrote:expand_more
The fact that "score the basketball" doesn't bother you just kills your credibility. It's Monroe-esque, really.
Pretty critical, SBH. Just don't pm me with any nasty comments.
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Posted: 4/8/2015 1:12 PM
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bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
. . . while "score the basketball" and "over the back" don't bother me like others on here, I would like to add my personal pet peeve when it comes to basketball announcers.

Situation: team A blows an easy basket and team B races to the other end of the court for an easy basket and the announcers suggests we just witnessed a "four-point swing".

Error in their thinking: this statement assumes that team B would not have scored if team A had not blown the original easy basket. Team B could have scored after team A's made basket, no? If so, what we actually witnessed was just a two-point swing. No more, no less.
My pet peeve is football related. A team has an epic 7 minute drive for a touchdown. Kicks the ball off. On the first play from scrimmage returns an interception for a TD. The announcers then says "they scored 14 points in 30 seconds." Uh, no, that first drive took 7 minutes. And, probably 30 minutes of my life including commercials.

(I feel better getting that off my chest.)
Last Edited: 4/8/2015 1:12:31 PM by Ohio69
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Posted: 4/8/2015 4:48 PM
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Looks like we've entered that time of year where there's no need, sorry guys, to check this board every day. When is the first football or volleyball game?
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Posted: 4/8/2015 5:26 PM
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. . . Well of course it was-the player used a golf club to hit a golf ball on a golf course.
But was he wearing golf shoes? ;-)
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Posted: 4/8/2015 8:54 PM
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I dislike "they just wanted it more"
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Posted: 4/9/2015 12:01 AM
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While "over the back" is not a specific foul it is possible to foul someone by making contact while being over the back. It is also possible to foul someone when "reaching in". "Reaching in" and "over the back" were things that officials actually said or pantomimed for most of the years I played ball. Maybe the refs were inaccurate but many people grew up hearing and seeing these calls.
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Posted: 4/9/2015 12:13 AM
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While "over the back" is not a specific foul it is possible to foul someone by making contact while being over the back. It is also possible to foul someone when "reaching in". "Reaching in" and "over the back" were things that officials actually said or pantomimed for most of the years I played ball. Maybe the refs were inaccurate but many people grew up hearing and seeing these calls.
I agree. I would say more often than not when someone goes "over the back" they foul the person whose back they went over. There are, of course, times when they don't, but you have be be pretty darn athletic to be truly over someone's back and come down without making contact with their back. In a pickup game last Saturday I was over another player's back when we were both reaching for a rebound. The ball went out-of-bounds off the other guy's fingers. My teammates said that it should be our ball, I called "over the back" on myself and gave the ball to the other team. I actually joked at the time that I would have appreciated a ladder on the other guy's back so that I could have climbed over it more effectively. ;-)
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Posted: 4/9/2015 2:03 AM
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bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
. . . while "score the basketball" and "over the back" don't bother me like others on here, I would like to add my personal pet peeve when it comes to basketball announcers.

Situation: team A blows an easy basket and team B races to the other end of the court for an easy basket and the announcers suggests we just witnessed a "four-point swing".

Error in their thinking: this statement assumes that team B would not have scored if team A had not blown the original easy basket. Team B could have scored after team A's made basket, no? If so, what we actually witnessed was just a two-point swing. No more, no less.
Poor comprehension of what happened and, more particularly, decisive-type events.

Not to mention cause (miss..resultant race to other end) and effect.

I.e., about what we'd expect you.




Hint: for most people, it's someone else who films and posts the embarrassing video; self-check is not the mode.
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Posted: 4/9/2015 6:13 AM
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Huh?
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Posted: 4/9/2015 9:57 AM
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Mine is "unanswered". To me the only way that word fits would be at the half when one team doesn't score, or a shutout. "Ohio scores 3 unanswered touchdowns and is up 21-0 at the half". Any other time it should be "consecutive". "Ohio has run off 9 consecutive points and has taken the lead, 41-40". When both teams have scored in a game, they have "answered".
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Posted: 4/9/2015 10:16 AM
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bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Huh?
So expected.
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Posted: 4/9/2015 12:58 PM
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Mine is "unanswered". To me the only way that word fits would be at the half when one team doesn't score, or a shutout. "Ohio scores 3 unanswered touchdowns and is up 21-0 at the half". Any other time it should be "consecutive". "Ohio has run off 9 consecutive points and has taken the lead, 41-40". When both teams have scored in a game, they have "answered".
Similar to getting a hit to "break out of a 1-for-23 slump." One hit doesn't necessarily break a slump.
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Posted: 4/9/2015 5:13 PM
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Good point. Ends the frustration of 0-23.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 5:09 PM
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I saw another one in the paper today after last night's Cavalier win against Boston. The writer made a big point that the "Cavs bench was outscored 51-9 by the Celtics bench". Welllll...I kinda think it doesn't matter, as the Cavs starters outscored the Celtics starters 90-40. Scoring is scoring. It might matter if both teams platooned and benches played an even amount of time, but they don't. All that matters is the final score: Cavs 99 Celtics 91
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Posted: 4/24/2015 10:19 AM
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bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Mine is "unanswered". To me the only way that word fits would be at the half when one team doesn't score, or a shutout. "Ohio scores 3 unanswered touchdowns and is up 21-0 at the half". Any other time it should be "consecutive". "Ohio has run off 9 consecutive points and has taken the lead, 41-40". When both teams have scored in a game, they have "answered".
Similar to getting a hit to "break out of a 1-for-23 slump." One hit doesn't necessarily break a slump.
Really?

Then a dunk has no emotional content?



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Posted: 4/24/2015 1:57 PM
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One of my favorite HS player was asked about a dunk in a post game newspaper article. He said " it may only be 2 points but it sure feels like a whole lot more!"
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Posted: 4/24/2015 2:18 PM
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It's the job of the opposing team to realize that the dunk only means two points and get back to business.
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Posted: 4/25/2015 10:04 AM
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Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Mine is "unanswered". To me the only way that word fits would be at the half when one team doesn't score, or a shutout. "Ohio scores 3 unanswered touchdowns and is up 21-0 at the half". Any other time it should be "consecutive". "Ohio has run off 9 consecutive points and has taken the lead, 41-40". When both teams have scored in a game, they have "answered".
Similar to getting a hit to "break out of a 1-for-23 slump." One hit doesn't necessarily break a slump.
Really?

Then a dunk has no emotional content?
No a verb has no emotions. Now can a dunk create or lead to an emotional situation? Perhaps but not necessarily. Depends on the situation not the action. For example does an ally oop to griffin create the same emotional response if they are down 20 to the Spurs as it does if it caps off a ten point run? Of course not.
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