I'm not claiming to be an expert and the point about Newble is a good one--I don't know if I'd recognize what is NBA talent. But some on here don't recognize what is not-NBA talent.

Generally, guys have to be physically solid--tall and/or thick. Quick. And, they must have some skill that is unique, indeniable--shooting or rebounding or defense, etc.

Take Gary Trent. It was easy to see. It was there every game.

This isn't a criticism...it's just my view: haven't seen anyone lately in the Green and White who I'd say is definite NBA material.


Along that line, I didn't see Hassan Whiteside when he was at stupd cow. Did those of you who saw him there think that this was a guy who put up big numbers in the NBA?

NBA scouts are thinking about what the player can become far more than the numbers they put up in college. Ndour did not have dominant numbers, but they were good, and he has things the NBA loves: Huge wingspan, outside shot, decent handles for a big man, very athletic. He also evolved from a good to a dominant defensive presence in the paint with his shot blocking ability. He was always a good shot blocker but he was insane his last 10 games or so (at least it seemed). He also only played two years of major college ball... under two different coaches and neither time did he have DJ cooper passing to him. Do I think he's headed for NBA stardom? Probably not, but I wouldn't be shocked by it either. it would be a hell of a story.

No doubt. First noght AB was in the line up he ate Devo, Reg, Baltic and anyone else we threw at him. I do not know the numbers but he was impressive just by his presence. GOod length, good bounce and a nose for the ball. Nice footwork too if my memory serves me correct. AB would go in the lane and get rejected and resorted to shooting from the edge. I think I recall him being like 1-17 or so that night.

Thanks pp

was not as bad as I was led to believe

City National Bank provides loans for some of the entities for which I work. Tonight, CNB held an appreciation night for their customers: an evening with The Logo, Jerry West.

The g.f. and a workmate and I were in the first row in a movie theater sized auditorium.

First and foremost, Jerry West was a terrific basketball player and is a terrific basketball executive, but he's a better person--a very humble, inspiring speaker who clearly cares more about helping others than his own success. Took plenty of time afterward for personal photos and chat.

During his talk he stated that there are about 60 guys who are drafted each year, with 40 making a team. He cited character as the deciding factor beyond the necessary and assumed physical talent.

He said that he thinks that a free agent has probably never made an all-star game and never made an all-league team.

NBA talent is evident. Or it's not.