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Posted: 10/31/2024 10:44 AM
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Some good stuff here, and really interested to know who got poached for $400K.

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/college/2024/10/30/bri...
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Posted: 10/31/2024 10:48 AM
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GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Some good stuff here, and really interested to know who got poached for $400K.

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/college/2024/10/30/bri...
I'm guessing the seven footer was the guy who bounced from NIU to Penn State. $200K to average 7 and 4 as a seven footer in the MAC.
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Posted: 10/31/2024 11:22 AM
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This is the most interesting journalism I've seen about the MAC in a very long time. I hope this becomes a regular thing.

Very interesting -- though not surprising -- that pretty much universally coaches want collective bargaining, revenue share, and contracts for players.

These two comments also resonate a lot, though obviously there's bias given they come from basketball coaches:

■ “Men's basketball is the only sport where the MAC can possibly make any money. Everything else drains. EVERYTHING else. So why wouldn’t the MAC and the schools invest? I’m a businessman at heart, and it makes zero sense.”

■ “The biggest thing that separates the MAC from the power leagues are the big guys. A lot of the guards in the MAC can play at that level, but we need to keep our guys. If we can somehow shift a little bit of the financial focus from football to basketball, it would really help.”
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Posted: 10/31/2024 11:49 AM
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GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Some good stuff here, and really interested to know who got poached for $400K.

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/college/2024/10/30/bri...
I’d guess Maddux, Moss, or Marcus Hill.
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Posted: 10/31/2024 2:07 PM
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
This is the most interesting journalism I've seen about the MAC in a very long time. I hope this becomes a regular thing.

Very interesting -- though not surprising -- that pretty much universally coaches want collective bargaining, revenue share, and contracts for players.

These two comments also resonate a lot, though obviously there's bias given they come from basketball coaches:

■ “Men's basketball is the only sport where the MAC can possibly make any money. Everything else drains. EVERYTHING else. So why wouldn’t the MAC and the schools invest? I’m a businessman at heart, and it makes zero sense.”

■ “The biggest thing that separates the MAC from the power leagues are the big guys. A lot of the guards in the MAC can play at that level, but we need to keep our guys. If we can somehow shift a little bit of the financial focus from football to basketball, it would really help.”
Those comments really perked my ears and eyes up too. I was thinking someone from BobcatAttack chimed in on this. Some of us have been saying that for years.

The Blade has been killing it lately with this plus seem to have their ear to the ground on the possible MAC expansion/realignment. Keep this kind of stuff coming, please.
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Posted: 10/31/2024 3:17 PM
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Great read and fun to try to decipher which coach said which quotes. I am willing to bet this is Groce in response to "best job in the MAC"

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Posted: 10/31/2024 8:23 PM
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It wasn't that long ago when Arkley/Messenger, Akron paper, Cleveland paper, Toledo paper, Muncie paper and Kalamazoo paper combined to give the MAC pretty good coverage for football and basketball with these types of stories.

Toledo is about it right now in terms of 'MAC' coverage, and even that has the Toledo spin on it. They barely cover BG and that's just 25-miles down the road.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
“Men's basketball is the only sport where the MAC can possibly make any money. Everything else drains. EVERYTHING else. So why wouldn’t the MAC and the schools invest? I’m a businessman at heart, and it makes zero sense.”

■ “The biggest thing that separates the MAC from the power leagues are the big guys. A lot of the guards in the MAC can play at that level, but we need to keep our guys. If we can somehow shift a little bit of the financial focus from football to basketball, it would really help.”
Amen.
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Posted: 11/1/2024 8:15 AM
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There are people here who know better than I, but re-routing money from football to basketball seems pretty obvious to me.

The football landscape is changing so dramatically that it's not clear what the MAC even is, or what the rules of the game are. There's discussion about expanding the MAC to keep up, but it's not clear what the point of keeping up is. We ain't going where college football is heading.
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OUcat wrote:expand_more
It wasn't that long ago when Arkley/Messenger, Akron paper, Cleveland paper, Toledo paper, Muncie paper and Kalamazoo paper combined to give the MAC pretty good coverage for football and basketball with these types of stories.

Toledo is about it right now in terms of 'MAC' coverage, and even that has the Toledo spin on it. They barely cover BG and that's just 25-miles down the road.
I was interviewed today by a reporter for the Messenger who is basically a freelancer. They have very few paid salary people left. He’s written a number of stories for the Messenger in the last year or so, and they pay peanuts. Not surprisingly, he told me that the paid circulation is now about 2,500. A few years ago it was close fo 5,000. I can remember “back in the day” when the circulation was more like 25,000 and their circulation area included seven counties, including Mason County, WV. It was kind of a regional paper with news bureaus in a number of nearby cities. I don’t think it takes a genius to figure out that the Messenger may be on its last legs. Perhaps, the wave of the future might be the Athens Independent a totally online paper.

https://athensindependent.com /
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