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Further proof that D1 basketball and football are far from an amateur status.
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Word out of Fla is this prep school will close at the end of the school year
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Word out of Fla is this prep school will close at the end of the school year
So the question is, why in the heck are we recruiting from this place? We can do better.
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Well, Alan, Culver already had his HS diploma from Pickerington Central when he went to Elev8. He didn't need an academic credential from this school. So what if his parents chose to spend the money for Culver to upgrade his basketball skills at Elev8? We were already heavily recruiting this kid when he was at Pick Central.

I have no problem whatsoever with recruiting young men who attended this school.
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Well, Alan, Culver already had his HS diploma from Pickerington Central when he went to Elev8. He didn't need an academic credential from this school. So what if his parents chose to spend the money for Culver to upgrade his basketball skills at Elev8? We were already heavily recruiting this kid when he was at Pick Central.

I have no problem whatsoever with recruiting young men who attended this school.
Agreed, a lot of kids need a year to mature after high school. And it's on their dime. And one of the kids is going to Cal. Yeah these are undeserving kids.
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
So the question is, why in the heck are we recruiting from this place? We can do better.
Probably one of the funnier statements I have ever read on this board.....on so many levels.
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So the question is, why in the heck are we recruiting from this place? We can do better.
Probably one of the funnier statements I have ever read on this board.....on so many levels.
I look at it from a different angle, especially with Culver. If he already earned his HS degree, prep school like this could be good for a couple notable reasons:

1) To physically and mentally mature as a young man prior to going to college. Plenty of individuals need that badly when they're 18 years old. I know I did.

2) Beyond that, improving his game to the point that a player gets better, and more offers is a great thing. Plus it may allow them to get to a point where they could play basketball for a living after college, when previously, maybe they could not have. In some cases, maybe going to a prep school like this even gives a kid a chance to just get that offer to go to college that he might not have gotten. I don't know the in's and out's of places like this, but it doesn't seem like it could be all bad.


I don't know much about "prep schools". I would be curious to know about how these places get into, and stay in business. Are they chartered or licensed in some fashion?
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colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Well, Alan, Culver already had his HS diploma from Pickerington Central when he went to Elev8. He didn't need an academic credential from this school. So what if his parents chose to spend the money for Culver to upgrade his basketball skills at Elev8? We were already heavily recruiting this kid when he was at Pick Central.

I have no problem whatsoever with recruiting young men who attended this school.
Agreed, a lot of kids need a year to mature after high school.
I thought that's what college was for.
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Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
Well, Alan, Culver already had his HS diploma from Pickerington Central when he went to Elev8. He didn't need an academic credential from this school. So what if his parents chose to spend the money for Culver to upgrade his basketball skills at Elev8? We were already heavily recruiting this kid when he was at Pick Central.

I have no problem whatsoever with recruiting young men who attended this school.
Agreed, a lot of kids need a year to mature after high school.
I thought that's what college was for.
Yeh, how is that working out?
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Posted: 5/3/2016 7:13 AM
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Maybe I'm missing something.
One of the people in the article talked about going to ELEV/8, in part, to "get your grades up".

But when they describe a "typical day',I didn't see any mention of taking classes.
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Maybe I'm missing something.
One of the people in the article talked about going to ELEV/8, in part, to "get your grades up".

But when they describe a "typical day',I didn't see any mention of taking classes.
The article does mention tutoring. It only states how the "typical day" begins, with that schedule ending before noon.
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Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
Well, Alan, Culver already had his HS diploma from Pickerington Central when he went to Elev8. He didn't need an academic credential from this school. So what if his parents chose to spend the money for Culver to upgrade his basketball skills at Elev8? We were already heavily recruiting this kid when he was at Pick Central.

I have no problem whatsoever with recruiting young men who attended this school.
Agreed, a lot of kids need a year to mature after high school.
I thought that's what college was for.
Not everyone is the same. Also with athletes, the extra year of conditioning, along with simply physically maturing as a human, has to help, right?
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A-townBound wrote:expand_more
Maybe I'm missing something.
One of the people in the article talked about going to ELEV/8, in part, to "get your grades up".

But when they describe a "typical day',I didn't see any mention of taking classes.
The article does mention tutoring. It only states how the "typical day" begins, with that schedule ending before noon.
I took a look at their web site.
Academics doesn't seem to be a priority.

I do know that there are also "schools" that are set up specifically to help
athletes get their grades up to be able to get college scholarships.
That's how Micheal Oher was able to get his scholarship.
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Well, Alan, Culver already had his HS diploma from Pickerington Central when he went to Elev8. He didn't need an academic credential from this school. So what if his parents chose to spend the money for Culver to upgrade his basketball skills at Elev8? We were already heavily recruiting this kid when he was at Pick Central.

I have no problem whatsoever with recruiting young men who attended this school.
Agreed, a lot of kids need a year to mature after high school.
I thought that's what college was for.
Not everyone is the same. Also with athletes, the extra year of conditioning, along with simply physically maturing as a human, has to help, right?
I thought that's what redshirts were for.
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Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
Well, Alan, Culver already had his HS diploma from Pickerington Central when he went to Elev8. He didn't need an academic credential from this school. So what if his parents chose to spend the money for Culver to upgrade his basketball skills at Elev8? We were already heavily recruiting this kid when he was at Pick Central.

I have no problem whatsoever with recruiting young men who attended this school.
Agreed, a lot of kids need a year to mature after high school.
I thought that's what college was for.
Not everyone is the same. Also with athletes, the extra year of conditioning, along with simply physically maturing as a human, has to help, right?
I thought that's what redshirts were for.

Don't know how much of a problem it is in Ohio,but in N.J. there's a big issue with high school redshirts.

Basically,a parent holds a kid back in grammar/middle school to get an "edge' in high school.

Its gotten so bad that N.J. is considering legislation that will require proof that a kid is left back for academic reasons,otherwise he looses a year of eligibility.

Figure a kid with a high school redshirt,year of prep school and a college redshirt will be in his early twenties as a freshman.
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rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Don't know how much of a problem it is in Ohio,but in N.J. there's a big issue with high school redshirts.

Basically,a parent holds a kid back in grammar/middle school to get an "edge' in high school.

Its gotten so bad that N.J. is considering legislation that will require proof that a kid is left back for academic reasons,otherwise he looses a year of eligibility.

Figure a kid with a high school redshirt,year of prep school and a college redshirt will be in his early twenties as a freshman.
Many private schools do it here in the DC area as well. It's obvious who those kids are, particularly the younger they are. There's such a difference in body control and strength. I agree that I don't have a problem with it if it's for academic reasons but I think it's counterproductive to do it for athletic reasons. Personally we went the opposite route. We had my son playing against older kids in first and second grade. He's now playing age specific but his organization generally plays a grade up in their leagues and tournaments. If your goal is to fill your kids room with trophies then hold him back. If you purpose is to make him a better basketball player don't. I don't have as big a problem with it when they are in high school or after high school.
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They have a college prep academic program which includes AP courses.
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Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
Well, Alan, Culver already had his HS diploma from Pickerington Central when he went to Elev8. He didn't need an academic credential from this school. So what if his parents chose to spend the money for Culver to upgrade his basketball skills at Elev8? We were already heavily recruiting this kid when he was at Pick Central.

I have no problem whatsoever with recruiting young men who attended this school.
Agreed, a lot of kids need a year to mature after high school.
I thought that's what college was for.
Not everyone is the same. Also with athletes, the extra year of conditioning, along with simply physically maturing as a human, has to help, right?
I thought that's what redshirts were for.
You must have missed the part about the parents paying for that year instead of Ohio paying for it.
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They have a college prep academic program which includes AP courses.
AP courses in and of themselves mean absolutely nothing. How many kids actually take the AP test and of those who take it, how many score 3 or better.
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
They have a college prep academic program which includes AP courses.
AP courses in and of themselves mean absolutely nothing. How many kids actually take the AP test and of those who take it, how many score 3 or better.
The College Board says 1.5 million
(21.9 % of all juniors and seniors) took AP tests in 2014 and 1 in 8 passed it.
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They have a college prep academic program which includes AP courses.
It appears from this that the AP courses are for grades 9 - 12. It says nothing about post high school courses.

http://elev8sportsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/0...
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A "passing" score on the APtest is considered a 3, yet each institution establishes their own criteria for accepting the scores and issuing credit. In short the AP exam is a dinosaur I n today's world where some JC's do not give credit for a 3, and better schools "may" give credit for a 5. My child was one of 421 students to score a 5 on 5 or more AP exams, they received ZERO credit at their college, that was $570 to the college board and received zero credit. Their 2-5 schools would also not honor an AP score. In today's world a student should take CCP, receive actual college credit and not have to pay out of pocket.

Just my $.02
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I took two AP courses in high school. Scored a 3 and 4. Received 7 credits from Ohio.
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