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FearLeon
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Posted: 11/23/2016 1:10 AM
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Listening to the Fort Wayne Coach praise Tom Crean for playing in their gym tonight. I can't help but think what it will be like when Ohio State plays in the Convo soon.

Damn...just woke up. Oh well...nice dream.
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Posted: 11/23/2016 7:47 AM
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FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Listening to the Fort Wayne Coach praise Tom Crean for playing in their gym tonight. I can't help but think what it will be like when Ohio State plays in the Convo soon.

Damn...just woke up. Oh well...nice dream.
He was stunningly sincere....struck a blow for mids everywhere with that interview
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Posted: 11/23/2016 8:24 AM
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Very nice and hope the Buckeyes are ranked when we defeat them in the Convo.
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Posted: 11/23/2016 9:45 AM
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Judging by the IU grad who lives in my house, they are NOT TAKING THIS WELL.
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Posted: 11/23/2016 10:17 AM
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Doesn't this more and more eliminate any possibility that a 'big' will play at a mid-major?

Won't bigs more and more (if this is possible) seek to play marquee games (in which a loss is okay) and truly weaklings which have no chance of the upset?
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Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Doesn't this more and more eliminate any possibility that a 'big' will play at a mid-major?

Won't bigs more and more (if this is possible) seek to play marquee games (in which a loss is okay) and truly weaklings which have no chance of the upset?
Sad but true. Almost time for my yearly rant on making the P5s come out and play or threaten to expand the tourney to equalize the mids and lows to be able to compete on a level surface

Most IU boards are saying that they should NEVER play "little brothers" in state (which they still include Butler) as that is their "super bowl". Obviously tO$U feels the same.
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bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
Doesn't this more and more eliminate any possibility that a 'big' will play at a mid-major?

Won't bigs more and more (if this is possible) seek to play marquee games (in which a loss is okay) and truly weaklings which have no chance of the upset?
Sad but true. Almost time for my yearly rant on making the P5s come out and play or threaten to expand the tourney to equalize the mids and lows to be able to compete on a level surface

Most IU boards are saying that they should NEVER play "little brothers" in state (which they still include Butler) as that is their "super bowl". Obviously tO$U feels the same.
Couldn't agree more with all of the above^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Posted: 11/23/2016 4:38 PM
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https://m.soundcloud.com/dandakich/112316-joncoffman-disc...

Someone asked in Chat last night how they got the Hoosiers to come up. THis coach is humble, thankful and most of all right in what he is saying.

As an aside I had to go back and remember that the Pistons had moved from Ft Wayne Northside HS gym where they had played since the early 40's through the formation of the new NBA till 1952 when they moved to the Coliseum where IU /FW played last night. THey have a seating capacity to the Convo, 11K which they sold out. Friends said that there were folks let in and an SRO crowd was almost 12 K with fire marshals going bonkers. Coach addresses some of those things in the soundcloud recording. Nice listen to a really down to earth similar to Saul guy.
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Posted: 11/23/2016 5:22 PM
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I agree there should be some kind of round robin scheduling with ALL teams. That might mean we go play at Highpoint College or some such place. But until they do, let's hit the road.
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Posted: 11/23/2016 11:24 PM
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oh the irony of Cinci, Xavier and Dayton fans complaining about Ohio State for not having the courage to play them on their home courts.
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Posted: 11/24/2016 8:24 AM
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University of Tennessee has played on the road at the Chattanooga Mocs before... both the men and women... and the MIGHTY MOCS of CHATTANOOGA kicked knoxville's azz... both genders!

Good job Mocs!!
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Posted: 11/25/2016 11:35 AM
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I'd love to see the NCAA dictate more OOC matchups, whether it be requirements for a certain percentage of true road games or something dictating which types of conferences they have to occasionally play. Won't ever happen but would be nice. I would have no problem whatsoever with Ohio playing on the road at "lesser" programs.
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Posted: 11/29/2016 10:57 AM
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Thoughtful repartee. Wish more of the press was as logical, mids should be more attractive to big programs looking to garner and appease fans (like the tens of thousands of IU fans in FWA) and play on the road. THe Convo could use a few forward thinking schools.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/despite-... /
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Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
I'd love to see the NCAA dictate more OOC matchups, whether it be requirements for a certain percentage of true road games or something dictating which types of conferences they have to occasionally play. Won't ever happen but would be nice. I would have no problem whatsoever with Ohio playing on the road at "lesser" programs.

This is something I'd like to see. Require the playing of say, 3-4 true road games in November and December. That, all by itself, would drastically change the at-large selection process.
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bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
Thoughtful repartee. Wish more of the press was as logical, mids should be more attractive to big programs looking to garner and appease fans (like the tens of thousands of IU fans in FWA) and play on the road. THe Convo could use a few forward thinking schools.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/despite-... /

Straight from the article:

" "I'm sure he's second-guessing that, but he shouldn't," Coffman said on SportsCenter early Wednesday morning. "This is good for college basketball."

Not exactly. Games like Indiana at Fort Wayne are great for college basketball. There was a March sensation in a November basketball game. We can't ask for more. Actually, we can. Neutral-court exempt tournaments offer us some interesting matchups and inevitable upsets, but no games played in Hawaii or the Bahamas or Cancun or Brooklyn or Orlando or Charleston or anywhere will match what an old, spacious barn brought to life on Tuesday night. We have Tom Crean to thank, not blame, for that."


I totally agree. Games like that, while I didn't get to watch it, are FUN. LOT'S OF FUN. Even if IU would have won by 2-3, it would have been fun. It's the reason many of us harp on scheduling more games against teams that are local/regional rivals with more frequency. Give me Wright State, or Cleveland State instead of an Arkansas State every day. Games where fans of either team can travel to if they want.


**Note, I'm not critical of the scheduling work done, because I don't know what it entails, and I acknowledge that it takes two to tango. But the goofy hoops fan in me wishes that in an ideal world we could get more games like this one. Games that matter a little more to the fans.
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Posted: 11/29/2016 12:09 PM
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Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
I'd love to see the NCAA dictate more OOC matchups, whether it be requirements for a certain percentage of true road games or something dictating which types of conferences they have to occasionally play. Won't ever happen but would be nice. I would have no problem whatsoever with Ohio playing on the road at "lesser" programs.
They tried that when they updated the RPI to give bigger weight to road games a number of years ago but the money revolted and decided they would devalue the significance of RPI as a factor in the selection of tournament teams.
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