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Posted: 12/23/2016 5:30 PM
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But Tony absolutely refuses to fight for post position on defense. He allows easy passes into the post and then tries to rely on his great hands for strips and blocks. Which leads to easy buckets for the other team and foul trouble for Tony.
Exactly. He needs to play tough D before his man gets the ball down low. By then it's too late - an easy shot or a TC foul or both. Fight for position, deny the entry pass, make your man get the ball where he doesn't want to get the ball. Deciding to play tough D after your man gets the ball where he wants it is too late.
Good stuff. Been my gripe with AC all four years....just seems to lack that hard-nosed intensity (on both ends of court at times) that a lot of those guys from the 2012 team had. That was a gritty team....much like their coach (Groce)

Seemed that Groce demanded that defense and toughness. Doesn't appear to be case with Saul so far.
Is there a stat for "drawing fouls". What real in the paint studs do?
Ken Pomeroy has a fouls drawn per 40 metric. Here's how Ohio stacks up:

Taylor - 6.5
Campbell - 5.4 (ranks 304th nationally)
Laster - 4.9
Simmons - 4.4
Carter - 4.1
Culver - 3.7
Dartis - 3.5
Block - 3.4
Kaminski - 2.1
Taylor is a 50% FT shooter. Lots of good that metric does.

If he makes one of two the other night, overtime.
If he makes both, WKU loses even with the refs screwing Ohio.
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Posted: 12/24/2016 12:42 AM
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greencat wrote:expand_more
But Tony absolutely refuses to fight for post position on defense. He allows easy passes into the post and then tries to rely on his great hands for strips and blocks. Which leads to easy buckets for the other team and foul trouble for Tony.
Exactly. He needs to play tough D before his man gets the ball down low. By then it's too late - an easy shot or a TC foul or both. Fight for position, deny the entry pass, make your man get the ball where he doesn't want to get the ball. Deciding to play tough D after your man gets the ball where he wants it is too late.
Good stuff. Been my gripe with AC all four years....just seems to lack that hard-nosed intensity (on both ends of court at times) that a lot of those guys from the 2012 team had. That was a gritty team....much like their coach (Groce)

Seemed that Groce demanded that defense and toughness. Doesn't appear to be case with Saul so far.
Is there a stat for "drawing fouls". What real in the paint studs do?
Ken Pomeroy has a fouls drawn per 40 metric. Here's how Ohio stacks up:

Taylor - 6.5
Campbell - 5.4 (ranks 304th nationally)
Laster - 4.9
Simmons - 4.4
Carter - 4.1
Culver - 3.7
Dartis - 3.5
Block - 3.4
Kaminski - 2.1
Taylor is a 50% FT shooter. Lots of good that metric does.

If he makes one of two the other night, overtime.
If he makes both, WKU loses even with the refs screwing Ohio.

It's a great stat, it shows our lack of aggression. TC needs to go inside more and maybe we will get better looks from the three point line, since nobody wants to penetrate.
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Posted: 12/30/2016 7:46 PM
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Losing to Urbana....at halftime?? Sure..I'll push the panic button. How can you not? Is there a team chemistry issue? This is unexplainable....even with Campbell not playing.
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Posted: 12/30/2016 10:11 PM
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FearLeon:
In a previous post leading up to tonight, I mentioned that this Urbana group was nipped by 20 points by the University of Charleston. I also reiterated that it was the Charleston of the WV variety and not the Charleston SC squad. What I did not mention previously is that Urbana was nipped by this score at HOME.
To think that they could be leading us in The Convo at halftime is incomprehensible. Excuses be damned! This is just an assessment by a passionate Captain's level supporter who loves the 'Cats and has paid his dues. I expected much better at this point of the season.
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Posted: 12/30/2016 10:28 PM
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Yeah, it's okay now to seriously question what's going on with this team. That was not good.
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Posted: 12/30/2016 10:37 PM
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Parkersburgwvcat wrote:expand_more
FearLeon:
In a previous post leading up to tonight, I mentioned that this Urbana group was nipped by 20 points by the University of Charleston. I also reiterated that it was the Charleston of the WV variety and not the Charleston SC squad. What I did not mention previously is that Urbana was nipped by this score at HOME.
To think that they could be leading us in The Convo at halftime is incomprehensible. Excuses be damned! This is just an assessment by a passionate Captain's level supporter who loves the 'Cats and has paid his dues. I expected much better at this point of the season.
Yep...we all expect much better. Nothing about the last 30 days gives positive vibes heading into conference play. Saul better figure it out in a hurry. And Simmons needs to find his MoJo.
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Posted: 12/30/2016 11:45 PM
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I can't believe we lost to Texas State. This is going to be a long season.
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Posted: 1/2/2017 11:32 PM
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Now into conference play. This is where the games start to count. Non-conference schedule is pretty much a preseason exercise for a one bid league like the MAC. Seeding for the tournament is the purpose of the regular season. Its starts Wednesday for teams that plan to be contenders in the MAC tournament. Teams that don't show until February are severely punished with not getting byes. If this teams wants to be that team that cuts down the nets it needs to play well from start to finish to position itself as one of the teams earning a bye. MAC is balanced if not that good. Every game will be tough. Don't see a large gap between the top and bottom this year.
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Posted: 1/3/2017 10:37 AM
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cc-cat wrote:expand_more
I can't believe we lost to Texas State. This is going to be a long season.
I see what you did there.
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Posted: 1/3/2017 11:31 AM
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Wanted to start a "Worst 8-3 team in the country" thread but too many would not know I was making a joke/referencing thread from a few years back.
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The Optimist wrote:expand_more
Wanted to start a "Worst 8-3 team in the country" thread but too many would not know I was making a joke/referencing thread from a few years back.
And instead you'd just get all kinds of angry responses. Wise move to skip it.
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Posted: 1/3/2017 9:23 PM
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OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Wanted to start a "Worst 8-3 team in the country" thread but too many would not know I was making a joke/referencing thread from a few years back.
And instead you'd just get all kinds of angry responses. Wise move to skip it.
Worst 9-3 team in the country.
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