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Posted: 4/20/2017 8:53 AM
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Coming off a P5 AD job Morgan Burke discusses his view of revenue sports.

I like that someone on the inside is voicing an opinion.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/04/17/co... /

I do not pretend to understand all the issues (unlike many of my friends to have firmly entrenched opines and are quick to issue "facts") but I appreciate this former AD responding to the court
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Posted: 4/20/2017 11:38 AM
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David Ridpath was on ESPN the other day referring to this story. I was at the gym and couldn't hear the dialogue. He's in our sport management program and often gets quoted.

To me, the litmus test is this: who is the highest paid professor at the university and what do they make? If the coaches salaries and total comp are in the ballpark, fine, then the players are good with just scholarships. If not, then you're in another realm that is not academics and the players are underpaid.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 2:55 PM
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giacomo wrote:expand_more
David Ridpath was on ESPN the other day referring to this story. I was at the gym and couldn't hear the dialogue. He's in our sport management program and often gets quoted.

To me, the litmus test is this: who is the highest paid professor at the university and what do they make? If the coaches salaries and total comp are in the ballpark, fine, then the players are good with just scholarships. If not, then you're in another realm that is not academics and the players are underpaid.
A couple years old but a point of reference. As for Ridpath, according to the issue of Perspectives that I received yesterday, he was the top quoted Ohio University expert in 2015 with 1,203 media placements.

http://www.athensnews.com/news/campus/ohio-university-s-t...
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Posted: 4/20/2017 3:34 PM
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http://www.athensnews.com/news/campus/ohio-university-s-t...

Ohio University's top 10 salaries for 2014-15. Notice not one actually teaches anything.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 7:55 PM
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"The top-10 salaried administrators at OU for 2014-2015 and their increases in pay from last year are detailed below:

1. Saul Phillips, head men's basketball coach: $550,000. Last year: $433,500 (2013-2014 compensation number is for former 2013-2014 basketball coach Jim Christian)"


My question to our every day negative poster who constantly posts negative material about Frank and the football program is why doesn't he constantly berate the hoops coach? No MAC tourney titles and in the MAC every team, no matter if they are 5th or 12th get get invited to the tournament. The hoops coach is compensated alot better than Frank. I am not advocating that he bash any program or coach, but I am guessing our mens basketball coach is the top paid guy in the MAC. Hey Mr. Negative, where is the heat for the top paid guy in the league?
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Posted: 4/20/2017 8:31 PM
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Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
"The top-10 salaried administrators at OU for 2014-2015 and their increases in pay from last year are detailed below:

1. Saul Phillips, head men's basketball coach: $550,000. Last year: $433,500 (2013-2014 compensation number is for former 2013-2014 basketball coach Jim Christian)"


My question to our every day negative poster who constantly posts negative material about Frank and the football program is why doesn't he constantly berate the hoops coach? No MAC tourney titles and in the MAC every team, no matter if they are 5th or 12th get get invited to the tournament. The hoops coach is compensated alot better than Frank. I am not advocating that he bash any program or coach, but I am guessing our mens basketball coach is the top paid guy in the MAC. Hey Mr. Negative, where is the heat for the top paid guy in the league?


So are you up on Monroe, down on Saul or just stirring the pot? Kind of interested in hearing that answer. Humans are so interesting.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:10 PM
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giacomo wrote:expand_more
http://www.athensnews.com/news/campus/ohio-university-s-t...

Ohio University's top 10 salaries for 2014-15. Notice not one actually teaches anything.
At companies, the people who actually make the product aren't the top paid either...
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:52 PM
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The point is if the coaches salary is above and beyond that the highest paid proffesor, then the players are under compensated. It's very simple.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:04 AM
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giacomo wrote:expand_more
The point is if the coaches salary is above and beyond that the highest paid proffesor, then the players are under compensated. It's very simple.
I'm having trouble following your logic on this. Help me out please.
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Posted: 4/23/2017 8:46 AM
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Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
The point is if the coaches salary is above and beyond that the highest paid proffesor, then the players are under compensated. It's very simple.
I'm having trouble following your logic on this. Help me out please.
I don't see the simplicity of it. Care to proffer a reason the professor may be of more value to the a fa lete?
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Posted: 4/23/2017 7:55 PM
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The funny thing is that when I started working at a University in Ohio years ago, NO EMPLOYEE could be paid more than the Govenor from University funds. It made sense, a college Pres runs ONE institution. The Gov runs the whole State. I am sure kasich's salary is much less than many of these guys. The inflation in Admin salaries has just been ridiculous in higher ed over the last 30 years! Some would call it obseen...or just keeping up with private industry. Take your pick...
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Posted: 4/26/2017 3:50 PM
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Borna, I'm not sure what you mean by "fa lete". But my reasoning is this: before coaches and admin salaries got out of control, a full scholarship was just compensation for a student athlete. When boosters are ponying up millions of dollars and TV contracts are paying huge sums for broadcast rights and many coaches are making 1M plus (with Calipari making 8M), it's not an amateur enterprise any longer. The athletes are underpaid and it will change in the future. In 1981 Bo Shembechler made 100k at Michigan and the college president made 105k. At 3.5% inflation that number is 345k today. If coaches made in the that ballpark, then in my opinion, the scholarship would be just compensation. Jim Harbaugh makes 9M.
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