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Posted: 12/3/2017 1:05 PM
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Interesting article on the dedication of Mackey. Reprinted today in the Star from Dec 4 1967. Surprisingly little said about the arena. I think I will try to find original paper articles from the opening of Convo and Joyce Center. Interesting that Wooden was not only coaching the opponent but was one of 10 Former Boilermakers honored pre game. Brought in his defending champ NCAA team that beat Dayton the previous year. All 3 Convos are so similar but I can not find info on architects save for the firm from Cols in the Ohio Wiki

http://www.jconline.com/story/sports/college/purdue/baske... /

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/pur/graphics/pur-mackey-aren... More compact .

Convo Opened Dec 3 364 days later

Joyce Center also opened Dec 68
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kenlund/11045729475/in/phot... /

Of course, in any BA discussion of Mackey (along with the pic above of Joyce) ....it must include the center court https://www.daktronics.com/news/Pages/Purdue-University-U...
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Architects? here ya go

Convo - Brubaker and Brandt Architects of Columbus, Ohio, opened 1968, cost $8.2M, seats 13,080

Mackey - HNTB Architecture of Kansas City, Mo., opened 1967, cost $6M, seats 14,123 (14,804 current).

Joyce Center - Ellerbe Architects of Saint Paul, Minnesota, opened 1968, cost $8.6M. An HNTB (Mackey's architects) renovation reduced seating 11,418 to 9,149.

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DanOhio72 wrote:expand_more
Architects? here ya go

Convo - Brubaker and Brandt Architects of Columbus, Ohio, opened 1968, cost $8.2M, seats 13,080

Mackey - HNTB Architecture of Kansas City, Mo., opened 1967, cost $6M, seats 14,123 (14,804 current).

Joyce Center - Ellerbe Architects of Saint Paul, Minnesota, opened 1968, cost $8.6M. An HNTB (Mackey's architects) renovation reduced seating 11,418 to 9,149.

Dan
Thanks .... I was a bit confused reading on Mackey. I was under the impression HNTB was the firm that did the recent redo as I looked for the original firm.

THey all look very similar from the inside and outside. Not sure how that works with 3 different buildings and 3 different firms...maybe someone in Architecture can enlighten.
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bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
Architects? here ya go

Convo - Brubaker and Brandt Architects of Columbus, Ohio, opened 1968, cost $8.2M, seats 13,080

Mackey - HNTB Architecture of Kansas City, Mo., opened 1967, cost $6M, seats 14,123 (14,804 current).

Joyce Center - Ellerbe Architects of Saint Paul, Minnesota, opened 1968, cost $8.6M. An HNTB (Mackey's architects) renovation reduced seating 11,418 to 9,149.

Dan
Thanks .... I was a bit confused reading on Mackey. I was under the impression HNTB was the firm that did the recent redo as I looked for the original firm.

THey all look very similar from the inside and outside. Not sure how that works with 3 different buildings and 3 different firms...maybe someone in Architecture can enlighten.
Along the same line of thought, I wonder about the architects for all the round stadiums of that era - Riverfront, Three Rivers, ATL Fulton Co Stadium, etc. Were they the same at all.

It's funny, when they were re-doing seats in The Convo, I was really hoping they consider reducing capacity by maybe 1500, kind of like they did with the Joyce Center.
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OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Architects? here ya go

Convo - Brubaker and Brandt Architects of Columbus, Ohio, opened 1968, cost $8.2M, seats 13,080

Mackey - HNTB Architecture of Kansas City, Mo., opened 1967, cost $6M, seats 14,123 (14,804 current).

Joyce Center - Ellerbe Architects of Saint Paul, Minnesota, opened 1968, cost $8.6M. An HNTB (Mackey's architects) renovation reduced seating 11,418 to 9,149.

Dan
Thanks .... I was a bit confused reading on Mackey. I was under the impression HNTB was the firm that did the recent redo as I looked for the original firm.

THey all look very similar from the inside and outside. Not sure how that works with 3 different buildings and 3 different firms...maybe someone in Architecture can enlighten.
Along the same line of thought, I wonder about the architects for all the round stadiums of that era - Riverfront, Three Rivers, ATL Fulton Co Stadium, etc. Were they the same at all.

It's funny, when they were re-doing seats in The Convo, I was really hoping they consider reducing capacity by maybe 1500, kind of like they did with the Joyce Center.
Riverfront and Atlanta were designed by the same firms. They were Atlanta firms. The others were all designed by different firms.
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WVU's arena is very similar to the Convo as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WVU_Coliseum#/media/File:WV...
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DelBobcat wrote:expand_more
Architects? here ya go

Convo - Brubaker and Brandt Architects of Columbus, Ohio, opened 1968, cost $8.2M, seats 13,080

Mackey - HNTB Architecture of Kansas City, Mo., opened 1967, cost $6M, seats 14,123 (14,804 current).

Joyce Center - Ellerbe Architects of Saint Paul, Minnesota, opened 1968, cost $8.6M. An HNTB (Mackey's architects) renovation reduced seating 11,418 to 9,149.

Dan
Thanks .... I was a bit confused reading on Mackey. I was under the impression HNTB was the firm that did the recent redo as I looked for the original firm.

THey all look very similar from the inside and outside. Not sure how that works with 3 different buildings and 3 different firms...maybe someone in Architecture can enlighten.
Along the same line of thought, I wonder about the architects for all the round stadiums of that era - Riverfront, Three Rivers, ATL Fulton Co Stadium, etc. Were they the same at all.

It's funny, when they were re-doing seats in The Convo, I was really hoping they consider reducing capacity by maybe 1500, kind of like they did with the Joyce Center.
Riverfront and Atlanta were designed by the same firms. They were Atlanta firms. The others were all designed by different firms.
Thanks for that. I didn't realize that. Despite the fact that new parks like GABP are clearly nicer, I still miss old Riverfront.
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I never missed Riverfront...so happy when it was gone. After leaving Crosley I went to one game there and never again. Catch the Reds? yeah at times like in 76 at Wrigley or at Turner Feild but never again in Cincy till Great American.

I heard a fascinating podcast on Ball Parks and how they came up with the Camden Yards project and every MLB park...to your point here ....something very very few folks realize....

"The surge in attendance has coincided with the remarkable rise of one architecture firm: Kansas City–based Populous. After the completion of the new Atlanta Braves stadium in 2017, it will have designed 20 of the 30 current Major League ballparks, orchestrated the renovations of five others, and changed the way we watch—and pay for—baseball."

Wish I could find that Podcast but this article should suffice. http://fortune.com/2015/05/25/populous-american-baseball-... / Cookie cutters out of the same mold.

GOt a feeling given the similarity of the Convo and the other hoops arenas that there must have been some behind the scenes sharing of notes.

Was reading a blog this weekend about "Pit gyms " . Though Dayton sits above the ground is essentially a pit gym with an upperdeck. The concept was tracked back to one man https://hiddengyms.blogspot.com/2011/06/legemans-court-vi... and has several locally here in New Castle, Connersville, Carmel. I don't remember seeing any in Ohio except the old feildhouse in Piqua
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