Big difference in an arm bar and pushing off.

That’s better, that would not be an arm bar then 😎. That would be a push off. And I’ve seen it called at both Women’s games I’ve attended

That is, but that is also perfectly legal.

Not if you gain an advantage by creating contact.

Semantics.

As has been pointed out, a dribbler can shield defenders from the ball with his/her non-dribbling hand. It's only a foul if the arm is used to push. It is a hard call to make. It can be difficult to see if a player is pushing off or simply shielding the ball. Players get away with it on all levels of basketball.

I think a lot of people say "over the back" when they really mean that someone is pushing someone or trying to go through their back to get a ball. There are other times when people seem to think simply reaching over someone to get a ball is a foul.

My apologies 100%Cat, I'm a little late to the party. I haven't been on BA today, there's this thing called "class" that I, for whatever reason, have to attend... Sometimes it gets in the way of interacting with you all! It's a shame, isn't it?

I'd answer your question, but it seems to already be answered above. The arm-bar is a push-off the defender by the offensive player. It was described perfectly above. I have seen it a lot more this year from our girls, mainly from our guards who want to get underneath. I can ask Boldon and company about their thoughts when I see them tomorrow on the bus to Fiami (Fri the 26th).

However, I fear the main thing(s) about last night's game aren't being mentioned here, and it's the outcome of the game. All thanks to Cece Hooks' game-winning, "Steal. Drive. Basket!"

(See highlight here ---> https://www.facebook.com/jake.hromada/posts/1719776161377... )

Also, kudos to Katie Barker for a career-high 24 PTS off 8 three's, and Taylor Agler for her career-high 12 assists. She doesn't get enough credit, most underrated PG in the MAC.

(See recap here ---> https://www.facebook.com/jake.hromada/posts/1720400377981... )

Thanks for the S/O! Don't be a stranger, come say hi to us in press row.

I don't find it all that amazing. Fans have learned it from announcers who say it and referees who at least used to make some unofficial gesture that resembled diving over someone.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a push, though. If you impede the space above another rebounder as he tries to jump, I believe that is the foul on the impeder even though the jumper may seem to have initiated contact.

Agree. These ladies are good and getting better. CeCe is the real deal, so quick and fast. She played only 22 minutes, (way too few IMO)and scored 16 points and had 6! steals. She's Is a decent free throw shooter so I imagine her outside shot will get stronger. One thing Boldon really needs is height and body. We get beat up underneath.

Anybody know if the 6'5" girl from Moscow is a player or a project?