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TWT
12/14/2017 9:50 PM
Watching this game on ESPN3 they mentioned how much of a hotbed Kentucky hoops was. I never thought of it in the light of Indiana or Ohio basketball but its true. The state of Ohio has 13 D1 teams playing at the mid major level and above. Kentucky doesn't have as many D1 teams and that may explain the historical success of WKU in basketball.
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bornacatfan
12/14/2017 11:34 PM
Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
Watching this game on ESPN3 they mentioned how much of a hotbed Kentucky hoops was. I never thought of it in the light of Indiana or Ohio basketball but its true. The state of Ohio has 13 D1 teams playing at the mid major level and above. Kentucky doesn't have as many D1 teams and that may explain the historical success of WKU in basketball.
That's it. Probably has nothing to do with Coach Diddle's 750 plus victories and his 70 plus win per cent. Basketball history is fascinating when you really take time to learn it rather than postulating. There's a reason there is a hand and a red towel on their uni's. Diddle's as recognizable to folks before us as Ed Jucker Tony Hinkle, Ready Meyer,George Irelan, Frank McGuire, Everett Case were and others that are not named wooden, rupp or Allen but are indeed as important to the game as those guys. Suffice to say it does not have as much to do with state boundaries, programs or such as much as it does the growth of the game and the men who coached and taught it over the decades

Kentucky , Illinois and Indiana high schools are still hotbeds of hoops. At the collegiate level Ohio is pretty impressive historically as is Indiana, Kentucky, NYC and Philly not based as much on numbers of programs but on quality of the mentors who led those programs
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Jeff McKinney
12/14/2017 11:42 PM
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I think it's a genius playcall to get a basket when you need a basket with little time remaining. What's your issue with the call? Looks easy enough to me. Official got the signal wrong, but that's still a foul.
Disagree. It's borderline unethical IMO. I am all for taking charges in the right way, but this is a cheap way to treat an opponent who just stuck with you the whole game through hard work.

I've liked Wisky basketball for a long time, but not this play.
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GroverBall
12/14/2017 11:55 PM
Thanks for the description, I know the play.
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shabamon
12/15/2017 8:40 AM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
I think it's a genius playcall to get a basket when you need a basket with little time remaining. What's your issue with the call? Looks easy enough to me. Official got the signal wrong, but that's still a foul.
Disagree. It's borderline unethical IMO. I am all for taking charges in the right way, but this is a cheap way to treat an opponent who just stuck with you the whole game through hard work.

I've liked Wisky basketball for a long time, but not this play.
There's practicality behind the play beyond trying to draw a foul. Screening the guy defending the inbounder makes the inbounds pass easier.
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Andrew Ruck
12/15/2017 8:46 AM
I thought a screener can't have his feet more than shoulder width apart??? Even if he wasn't out of bounds and his feet were set, his feet are sprawled way apart. That's an illegal screen, and I'm a Wisconsin fan (ish).
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OhioCatFan
12/15/2017 10:36 AM

borna, thanks for reminding me about E. A. Diddle.  He was a real legend.  I remember listening to another legend, Cawood Ledford, call Diddle-coached WKU games on WHAS when I was in high school. WHAS did all UK games and selected games from other Kentucky schools, especially WKU. 

For those that don't know about Diddle, here's the first paragraph of a story from the WKU athletic site:

In 42 seasons (1922-64) as the head basketball coach at Western Kentucky, Edgar Allen E.A. Diddle's teams claimed 32 conference championships; played in 11 postseason tournaments; won 20+ games eighteen different times, (including one stretch of ten years in a row); became the first team from the South to participate in the Olympic Trials; and they won an amazing 759 games!  When he stepped down in 1964 Diddle had won more games than any coach in NCAA history and today he still ranks fifth on the all-time list.  At the time of his death in 1970 over 100 of Diddle's former players were coaching in the high school, college, or professional ranks -- an incredible example of the influence that he had on his beloved players. Visitors of the Basketball Hall of Fame in Springfield, Mass., can view a display honoring Mr. Diddle, which includes one of the coach's legendary Red Towels, which he developed into a Western tradition.

if you want to read the whole story, click here.

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bornacatfan
12/15/2017 1:47 PM
I think I remember seeing that he put over 40 guys into Pro ball. Back then, save for Cal and Oregon most hoops took place in the East and to some extent, the close Midwest
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