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Ted Thompson
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Posted: 2/21/2018 10:13 AM
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Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. 

Date: February 24th, 2018 3:30 PM

Opponent: Buffalo  (20-8, 12-3 MAC)

Site: Alumni Arena

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Webcast: ESPN3

Buffalo statistics, roster and media guide.

Buffalo Fan Site:  UBFan.com

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Posted: 2/21/2018 11:49 AM
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The team may be playing the best that they have all season. Of course, this hasn't been a great season.

What's good is that they're playing more like a team. Last night they had 19 assists on 32 buckets, nearly 60%. Third highest assist total of the year. That's what Saul has been wanting from them.

Saturday will show us whether this team has the stuff to make a MAC tourney run. The five conference wins have not been against upper-tier MAC teams, and four have been at home. Knocking off Buffalo on the road would be huge -- especially considering that Buffalo will have a burr in its butt after last night's loss.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 12:03 PM
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Buffalo has only lost one game on their home floor this year; to St. Bonaventure.

But, Ohio actually plays well up there has won the last two, plus six of the last seven played at Alumni Arena. Sure would be nice to keep that trend alive.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 10:58 PM
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We're going to see a very angry bunch of Bulls. After blowing that Fiami game ... they've been scuffling lately (must be the pressure of that Elton Alexander article)

I'll be surprised if Ohio stays within 15 in this one.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 11:17 PM
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bshot44 wrote:expand_more
We're going to see a very angry bunch of Bulls. After blowing that Fiami game ... they've been scuffling lately (must be the pressure of that Elton Alexander article)

I'll be surprised if Ohio stays within 15 in this one.
I'd never confuse you with The Optimist! ;-)
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Posted: 2/22/2018 8:21 AM
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This one all depends on how the game is call. If they let them play we are in a bit of trouble. If it's closely called then we very well could win.
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Posted: 2/22/2018 9:11 AM
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I wouldn't mind turning this into a slow, clogging, ugly game. Buffalo isn't very good from the free throw line (269th nationally) and they turned it over 16 times last time against Ohio.

Difference last time came down to rebounding where they killed Ohio 51-38, 15 of those coming on the offensive glass. The bigs Smart and Perkins killed the Cats in the paint. Didn't get much production from the bench either: Jimmy had only 7 minutes and Butler only 13. That should turn around with the recent switch to put Gavin at the 6th man.

The offense has played much, much better since that loss but the defensive effort and better rebounding is the only way to win this game up there.
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Posted: 2/22/2018 2:47 PM
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There is no way we are winning this game. I hope to be proven wrong but I can't see us beating Buffalo at Buffalo. I can't see us beating Buffalo after taking it to them the first game. I can't see us beating Buffalo coming off a loss to a mediocre Fiami team.

Basically, it's the triple threat of reasons we won't win.

But...I hope you are all calling me out after we win on Sunday!
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Posted: 2/22/2018 3:31 PM
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Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
There is no way we are winning this game. I hope to be proven wrong but I can't see us beating Buffalo at Buffalo. I can't see us beating Buffalo after taking it to them the first game. I can't see us beating Buffalo coming off a loss to a mediocre Fiami team.

Basically, it's the triple threat of reasons we won't win.

But...I hope you are all calling me out after we win on Sunday!
I hope you're wrong as well, but it's tough to argue with your logic.
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Posted: 2/22/2018 3:54 PM
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KenPom predicts an 88-75 loss, 13% chance of winning.

Ohio has been playing better offensively since the BG game. Below are their points per possession along with the rating of the defense they're doing it against. Offense has been Ohio's bigger problem this year. They're averaging 101.7/100 on an adjusted basis (250th). Defensively, they are more average allowing 105.4/100 (156th).

Opponent (Points per possession) - Defensive Points/100 (Rank)
CMU (1.10) - CMU allows 108.9/100 (233rd)
Akron (1.27) - Akron allows112.4/100 (298th)
WMU (0.85) - WMU allows 107.6/100 (203rd)
Toledo (0.99) - Toledo allows 110.5/100 (262nd)
Miami (1.12) - Miami allows 103.6/100 (126th)
Kent St. (1.26) - Kent St. allows 108.6/100 (226th)
 
 
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Posted: 2/22/2018 4:46 PM
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Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
KenPom predicts an 88-75 loss, 13% chance of winning.
Ohio has been playing better offensively since the BG game. Below are their points per possession along with the rating of the defense they're doing it against. Offense has been Ohio's bigger problem this year. They're averaging 101.7/100 on an adjusted basis (250th). Defensively, they are more average allowing 105.4/100 (156th).
Opponent (Points per possession) - Defensive Points/100 (Rank)
CMU (1.10) - CMU allows 108.9/100 (233rd)
Akron (1.27) - Akron allows112.4/100 (298th)
WMU (0.85) - WMU allows 107.6/100 (203rd)
Toledo (0.99) - Toledo allows 110.5/100 (262nd)
Miami (1.12) - Miami allows 103.6/100 (126th)
Kent St. (1.26) - Kent St. allows 108.6/100 (226th)
And Buffalo is sitting a 105.7/100 (164th).

I believe they are last in the MAC in PPG allowed, but they also have the highest point differential by a long shot.
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Posted: 2/22/2018 7:50 PM
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We own em up there..and

Doug Taylor is getting better and

Mickle is feeling and playing better and

losing to Miami won't get them up for the next game but rather bring them down as they start to lay the blame game on each other for playing so lousy.
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Posted: 2/23/2018 12:33 AM
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MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more
We own em up there..and

Doug Taylor is getting better and

Mickle is feeling and playing better and

losing to Miami won't get them up for the next game but rather bring them down as they start to lay the blame game on each other for playing so lousy.
I like this line of thinking. I hope it proves true!
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Posted: 2/23/2018 10:33 AM
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MonroeClassmate wrote:expand_more
We own em up there..and

Doug Taylor is getting better and

Mickle is feeling and playing better and

losing to Miami won't get them up for the next game but rather bring them down as they start to lay the blame game on each other for playing so lousy.
Key to this is coming out of the gate hot, and getting their players frustrated with strong defense, make the hangover from Miami come out. If they start the game with a full head of steam it will be a much more daunting task to leave WNY with a win.
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Posted: 2/23/2018 1:38 PM
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Buffalo is the best team in MAC history* so Ohio does not have a shot in this game whatsoever.

*http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2018/02...
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Posted: 2/23/2018 5:18 PM
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We open as 12.5 pt underdogs.
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Posted: 2/24/2018 9:45 AM
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We have to make buffalo shoot contested 3’s, they are not that disciplined. If they decide to take us to the hole than we lose. I’ve also have to hit open shots and rebound well. Go Cats
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Posted: 2/24/2018 10:43 AM
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The first time we played them we did a respectable job limiting dribble penetration. We will see what happens today.
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Posted: 2/24/2018 5:33 PM
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108 points. How many games have we lost in the Saul era by 20+ more points? I know a lot of people got excited winning two home games in a row. The reality is we are a team to date that has one quality win on its schedule...Western Kentucky. #13Months
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FearLeon wrote:expand_more
108 points. How many games have we lost in the Saul era by 20+ more points? I know a lot of people got excited winning two home games in a row. The reality is we are a team to date that has one quality win on its schedule...Western Kentucky. #13Months
#iloveleonswisdom
#itnevergetsold
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Posted: 2/24/2018 5:57 PM
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FearLeon wrote:expand_more
108 points. How many games have we lost in the Saul era by 20+ more points? I know a lot of people got excited winning two home games in a row. The reality is we are a team to date that has one quality win on its schedule...Western Kentucky. #13Months
The Tennessee contingent (you and Greencat) was conspicuous by its absence after the two wins. Today deserves some criticism for sure, but wouldn't it be more credible if you'd give these guys some credit when they do something right?
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Posted: 2/24/2018 6:12 PM
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Today showed that this team isn't ready to make a run in the tourney. We may win in the first round but likely will have a one & done in Cleveland. Just too slow getting back on D and gave Buffalo too many open shots. Can't do the same with Toledo or BSU.
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Posted: 2/24/2018 6:20 PM
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Still have a chance at a home game and the 8th seed with two wins.
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FearLeon wrote:expand_more
108 points. How many games have we lost in the Saul era by 20+ more points? I know a lot of people got excited winning two home games in a row. The reality is we are a team to date that has one quality win on its schedule...Western Kentucky. #13Months
Fear

All due respect but showing up only to crap on the team gets a bit old. Saying "I know a lot of people....." is really OVERstating the case. I did not see anyone getting EXCITED about the 2 wins and the few that were do NOT constitute A LOT. Thanks for the reality check. Most of us did not know how bad this year is turning out.
Last Edited: 2/24/2018 6:25:38 PM by bornacatfan
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Give credit where credit is due. Buffalo is a darn good basketball team. If they can stay focused and remain consistent, they should not only cruise to a MAC tournament victory, but make a deep run in the NCAA tournament. They will also likely be looking for a new head coach soon. No shame at all to losing to this team. After all, they look good, real good.
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