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Jeff McKinney
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Posted: 3/1/2018 3:17 PM
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My favorite memory of this tactic was in a high school game - the infamous Barberton Magics vs. Firestone at Firestone. Keith Dambrot (yes, that one) had the ball when Barberton coach Jack Greynolds stormed on the court and took it from him.
To give you an idea of how powerful Greynolds was, the refs listened to his complaint, asked him to return to the bench, gave the ball back to Dambrot and restarted play...with no technical.
Amazing.
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Posted: 3/1/2018 3:36 PM
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Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
My favorite memory of this tactic was in a high school game - the infamous Barberton Magics vs. Firestone at Firestone. Keith Dambrot (yes, that one) had the ball when Barberton coach Jack Greynolds stormed on the court and took it from him.
To give you an idea of how powerful Greynolds was, the refs listened to his complaint, asked him to return to the bench, gave the ball back to Dambrot and restarted play...with no technical.
Amazing.
I wonder if OCF was there. :)

In all seriousness, having played against Greynolds and his "Magic Show" and their legions of purple clad fans, the fact that this happened while crazy as it not at all surprising.

http://ohiobkcoaches.com/award/hall-of-fame-inductees/hal... /
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Posted: 3/1/2018 3:47 PM
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I think it would be kind of fun when it's so obvious that a coach is putting on a s#!t show like that for a ref to hit a coach with one technical, then tell him he's not getting the second and he's free to embarrass himself for however long he wants to but in the end hes going to sit back down and watch every touch foul get called for the next 25 seconds left in the game.

But that's probably because I'm a parent and dream of not rewarding tantrums.
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Posted: 3/1/2018 6:53 PM
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Unrelated, but related. One of my favorite coach/player-official interactions was when a cheeseburger was left on the third-base bag for umpire Eric Gregg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIQOtm5NaeY
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Posted: 3/1/2018 9:00 PM
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Though I loved the Sweet 16 run, this is one aspect of Groce that I never liked -- the orchestrated emotion. Fake Emotion is something like Fake Monroe in my book. I prefer the real stuff!
Orchestrated is just the opposite of fake - it's done for a reason. I'll take Groce "fake" or not over any coach we've had since Danny (with all due respect to Billy).
No, orchestrated emotion is fake emotion by definition. If you are reacting in a natural way because you are truly angry that's real. The minute you start to "enhance" your emotion with an ulterior motive you are in the land of the fake. I didn't say I didn't like the way JG coaches. I said that this was one aspect of his personality that I was never comfortable with. Every coach does this sometimes and uses "enhanced emotion" for an effect. Groce was an is a little overboard with it, IMHO.
Try telling John that his emotion during a game is fake, and you’d probably be eating your dentures. One thing that you can not deny of John and that is his emotion, intensity and passion are real.

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Posted: 3/1/2018 9:43 PM
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D.A. wrote:expand_more
Though I loved the Sweet 16 run, this is one aspect of Groce that I never liked -- the orchestrated emotion. Fake Emotion is something like Fake Monroe in my book. I prefer the real stuff!
Orchestrated is just the opposite of fake - it's done for a reason. I'll take Groce "fake" or not over any coach we've had since Danny (with all due respect to Billy).
No, orchestrated emotion is fake emotion by definition. If you are reacting in a natural way because you are truly angry that's real. The minute you start to "enhance" your emotion with an ulterior motive you are in the land of the fake. I didn't say I didn't like the way JG coaches. I said that this was one aspect of his personality that I was never comfortable with. Every coach does this sometimes and uses "enhanced emotion" for an effect. Groce was an is a little overboard with it, IMHO.
Try telling John that his emotion during a game is fake, and you’d probably be eating your dentures. One thing that you can not deny of John and that is his emotion, intensity and passion are real.

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As SBH pointed out, he *admitted* after the game that he was faking it. Don't you believe him?
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Posted: 3/2/2018 1:08 PM
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OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
Unrelated, but related. One of my favorite coach/player-official interactions was when a cheeseburger was left on the third-base bag for umpire Eric Gregg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIQOtm5NaeY
Livan Hernandez should've donated a year's salary to Gregg.
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