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Clown Ohio Fan
1/16/2026 10:48 PM
I've been a believer in Jeff Boals from the very beginning. He accomplished something very special taking them to the NCAA Tournament and upsetting Virginia.

However, it's now clear that he doesn't have what it takes to properly navigate things at Ohio in the current landscape of college basketball.

He's had several years and things are going in the wrong direction. Boals has too much faith in the wrong players, doesn't have an identity and has been horrible recruiting and developing players as we've seen Ohio drop far behind Akron, Kent State and Toledo.

I've desperately wanted him to be successful but I've finally given up all hope. I'm still going to root for Ohio to turn things around and finish the season strong but have zero expectations.

I don't believe Ohio will do anything regarding Boals following the season but it's time that they start thinking about what direction we want for OU basketball moving forward and if Boals should still be a part of it.
Last Edited: 1/16/2026 10:51:25 PM by Clown Ohio Fan
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FearLeon
1/16/2026 10:55 PM
FormerMember wrote:expand_more
I've been a believer in Jeff Boals from the very beginning. He accomplished something very special taking them to the NCAA Tournament and upsetting Virginia.

However, it's now clear that he doesn't have what it takes to properly navigate things at Ohio in the current landscape of college basketball.

He's had several years and things are going in the wrong direction. Boals has too much faith in the wrong players, doesn't have an identity and has been horrible recruiting and developing players as we've seen Ohio drop far behind Akron, Kent State and Toledo.

I've desperately wanted him to be successful but I've finally given up all hope. I'm still going to root for Ohio to turn things around and finish the season strong but have zero expectations.

I don't believe Ohio will do anything regarding Boals following the season but it's time that they start thinking about what direction we want for OU basketball moving forward and if Boals should still be a part of it.
+1,000,000

Perfectly said.

It’s grown stale with Boals.
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giacomo
1/16/2026 11:09 PM
What’s really stale are ridiculous comments from know nothing fan(atic)s.
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RSBobcat
1/16/2026 11:12 PM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
What’s really stale are ridiculous comments from know nothing fan(atic)s.

OK - Defend with know something comments....
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FearLeon
1/16/2026 11:16 PM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
What’s really stale are ridiculous comments from know nothing fan(atic)s.
Please share your wisdom.

So you like seeing us lose to a terrible team with 2 D-One wins?
You like watching Boals get another T at the worst time?
You like the bad D?
You like the missed important free throws?
You like mental errors which included not fouling a 43% FT shooter in the last 30 seconds of the game?
I mean the list goes on.
I guess it’s not stale when you’re 341st in the country for the easiest 3 point shot.
Either have a take or not.
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Clown Ohio Fan
1/16/2026 11:43 PM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
What’s really stale are ridiculous comments from know nothing fan(atic)s.
Does it change anything if I used to be a professional sports anchor that has covered 7 D1 basketball programs or am I still a "know nothing" fanatic?
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Bobcat1998
1/16/2026 11:59 PM
I was a huge anti-Saul guy but Boals won with Saul guys. Since then we have sucked. Boals is done. Enjoy being an assistant at OSU.
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GraffZ06
1/16/2026 11:59 PM
Welcome to the current state of college/semi-pro/AAU/always free agent/mercenary/pay for play athletics.

Athens, Ohio and Ohio University do not and will not have enough $$$ to compete. Sadly (and it may vary by sport and by season - and ultimately it may take years 10-12 to fully flesh itself out) - we don't even have enough $$$ to be in the top half of the MAC. Between urban populations, median household incomes and local business revenues - we're a bottom 1/3 of D1 program. This is our reality given the new normal.

You can argue this team is bad. It is.
You can argue Boals hasn't done a great job this year. I'd agree.
But Boals HAS done a good to above-average job in his tenure here....and I guarantee that if you fire him, unless money bags McGee shows up with the new HC, the results will only get worse not better.
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mid70sbobcat
1/17/2026 12:26 AM
Funny reading all the comments. But for example, an unnamed poster worshipped Groce. Groce won 60% of his games at Ohio. That's decent. And what about Boals? Oh, he's won 59+% of his games. Statistically the same. I don't think the Ohio administration is going to fire a coach winning 60% of his games because a handful of fanatics, are ranting on a Bobcat fan site. These kids are in Athens to get an education. There is a reason I believe they are called student-athletes. More important things in life than a "game".
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OhioCatFan
1/17/2026 12:53 AM
No inside information here, but with a new AD (who has fundraising prowess), I suspect he'll find the money for a buyout after the season is over, barring a complete turnaround in the season and playing in the MAC championship game in Cleveburg.

I'd put the odds of a new coach for the 2026-27 season at 70 percent. I could be wrong, but that's what my gut tells me. Like others have said, I was initially a big Boals fan, but he seems unable to win with his own players. He did well with Saul's recruits. There is just something very stale about the program now.

Meanwhile, back in sucksville, Oxford Tech is 16-0 and getting votes for the Top 25. That, in the words of my former protege, Chuck Landon, is Unacceptable! We can never be second fiddle to that school. Let me say it again, that is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!
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OUcat
1/17/2026 6:30 AM
mid70sbobcat wrote:expand_more
Funny reading all the comments. But for example, an unnamed poster worshipped Groce. Groce won 60% of his games at Ohio. That's decent. And what about Boals? Oh, he's won 59+% of his games. Statistically the same. I don't think the Ohio administration is going to fire a coach winning 60% of his games because a handful of fanatics, are ranting on a Bobcat fan site. These kids are in Athens to get an education. There is a reason I believe they are called student-athletes. More important things in life than a "game".
Listen ... only in the last few seasons has Groce found the formula to being a strong regular season coach. His stamp was and is an ability to get teams to 'peak' for conference tournament play and post-season.

It's a laudable trait, especially in a one-bid league. But really he's just a good mid-major coach. That showed at Illinois - in a bigger arena - he was nothing special. Now at Akron (with NIL $$$) he is a cut above.

Yet a closer look shows - despite Groce string of MAC Tournament wins - he's had as many player defections each season as Toledo. Miami, Kent and even us had more players staying than leaving for the portal in recent seasons. That should tell you something.
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Bobcat1998
1/17/2026 7:04 AM
OUcat wrote:expand_more
Funny reading all the comments. But for example, an unnamed poster worshipped Groce. Groce won 60% of his games at Ohio. That's decent. And what about Boals? Oh, he's won 59+% of his games. Statistically the same. I don't think the Ohio administration is going to fire a coach winning 60% of his games because a handful of fanatics, are ranting on a Bobcat fan site. These kids are in Athens to get an education. There is a reason I believe they are called student-athletes. More important things in life than a "game".
Listen ... only in the last few seasons has Groce found the formula to being a strong regular season coach. His stamp was and is an ability to get teams to 'peak' for conference tournament play and post-season.

It's a laudable trait, especially in a one-bid league. But really he's just a good mid-major coach. That showed at Illinois - in a bigger arena - he was nothing special. Now at Akron (with NIL $$$) he is a cut above.

Yet a closer look shows - despite Groce string of MAC Tournament wins - he's had as many player defections each season as Toledo. Miami, Kent and even us had more players staying than leaving for the portal in recent seasons. That should tell you something.
So has our football team but they have figured out the formula. Boals has been bringing in less than desirable players or if they were good elsewhere he seemingly screws them up. Conners has regressed. Simmons has regressed. Breath has regressed. In the meantime EJ4 is making us look bad. Sam Towns is making us look bad and overall, John Groce is making us look bad. Boals has become comfortable and the program is stagnant. This was an abhorrable loss and if you have anything positive to say after it you are either a Boals family member, a cult follower or you are Jeff Boals.
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NashvilleKat
1/17/2026 7:57 AM
I agree 100% that the basketball team needs new leadership and a new direction. In the current climate of college athletics, you'd think our football team would have suffered. But even with all the coaching changes, we've managed to go 40-14 in the last 4 years, 23-1 at home, beaten 2 power 4 teams in Iowa State and WVU, been to 2 MAC Championship games winning 1,(should have been a third other than tiebreaker rules) and won 7 straight bowl games. Hope Slade analyzes the direction of the 2 programs and makes a change in basketball.
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OUcats82
1/17/2026 8:02 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
No inside information here, but with a new AD (who has fundraising prowess), I suspect he'll find the money for a buyout after the season is over, barring a complete turnaround in the season and playing in the MAC championship game in Cleveburg.

I'd put the odds of a new coach for the 2026-27 season at 70 percent. I could be wrong, but that's what my gut tells me. Like others have said, I was initially a big Boals fan, but he seems unable to win with his own players. He did well with Saul's recruits. There is just something very stale about the program now.

Meanwhile, back in sucksville, Oxford Tech is 16-0 and getting votes for the Top 25. That, in the words of my former protege, Chuck Landon, is Unacceptable! We can never be second fiddle to that school. Let me say it again, that is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!
I think it Miami continues on this trend, Steele will be on to another program come March/April.
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FJC31
1/17/2026 8:59 AM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
Welcome to the current state of college/semi-pro/AAU/always free agent/mercenary/pay for play athletics.

Athens, Ohio and Ohio University do not and will not have enough $$$ to compete. Sadly (and it may vary by sport and by season - and ultimately it may take years 10-12 to fully flesh itself out) - we don't even have enough $$$ to be in the top half of the MAC. Between urban populations, median household incomes and local business revenues - we're a bottom 1/3 of D1 program. This is our reality given the new normal.

You can argue this team is bad. It is.
You can argue Boals hasn't done a great job this year. I'd agree.
But Boals HAS done a good to above-average job in his tenure here....and I guarantee that if you fire him, unless money bags McGee shows up with the new HC, the results will only get worse not better.
This is becoming a lazy argument with each season. Simmons’ agent is my classmate and he got a 6 figure deal to come here. He left a conference rival with a practice facility for Athens. You know, the same school we just lost to Tuesday (again) despite poaching its best player from a season ago.

We’re not flush with cash, but we’re certainly not crying poor either. Our entire portal class this past cycle consisted of 3 starters from better teams a season ago. Which of the top MAC schools could have said this in May? Breath came from a better conference as a 2 year starter and has gotten worse. Pending how you viewed the SBC, Connors has also gotten worse since coming here. This isn’t an NIL problem, it’s a coaching and roster construction problem.

On the flip side, Kent and Akron continue to remain at the top of the MAC with 4 year players like Gillespie, Lyles, and Johnson taking massive leaps this season. They’re all looking like 1st Team All MAC players. That isn’t NIL, that’s coaching and player development.

Boals hasn’t had a 4 year player of his own take that kind of stride during his entire tenure here. AJC went from preseason MAC POY to finishing on the 3rd team last year. Thats as close as it’s gotten. Sears was the last 1st Team player we had. But sure, a lack of money has caused this.

You don’t think in this era part of the vetting process includes how a coach will raise NIL? Regardless, give me someone who recruits all verticals, can develop, and actually runs a system to give us an identity. Something we haven’t had the last 4 seasons.

This program won’t be worse off without Boals because it isn’t very good with him and becoming more painfully obvious 20/21 was lightning in a bottle.
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SBH
1/17/2026 9:07 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
No inside information here, but with a new AD (who has fundraising prowess)
Not seeing much fundraising prowess thus far. He came from a school that had 1 major in-state competitor. Ohio has 14 state universities. He doesn't know who the donors are, hasn't connected with them, and seems comfortable turning over fundraising to the University Development team on College Green. And those folks aren't interested in building and maintaining the strong base of mid-level contributors necessary to fund a decent NIL pool and/or sensible facility upgrades. They're looking for one-time wins that'll get them jobs at a BIG school.
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Bobcat1996
1/17/2026 9:08 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
No inside information here, but with a new AD (who has fundraising prowess), I suspect he'll find the money for a buyout after the season is over, barring a complete turnaround in the season and playing in the MAC championship game in Cleveburg.

I'd put the odds of a new coach for the 2026-27 season at 70 percent. I could be wrong, but that's what my gut tells me. Like others have said, I was initially a big Boals fan, but he seems unable to win with his own players. He did well with Saul's recruits. There is just something very stale about the program now.

Meanwhile, back in sucksville, Oxford Tech is 16-0 and getting votes for the Top 25. That, in the words of my former protege, Chuck Landon, is Unacceptable! We can never be second fiddle to that school. Let me say it again, that is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!
OCF- Do you know what the buyout is? The former AD extended Coach Boals and made him the top paid conference coach a few years ago.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
1/17/2026 9:11 AM
FJC31 wrote:expand_more
Welcome to the current state of college/semi-pro/AAU/always free agent/mercenary/pay for play athletics.

Athens, Ohio and Ohio University do not and will not have enough $$$ to compete. Sadly (and it may vary by sport and by season - and ultimately it may take years 10-12 to fully flesh itself out) - we don't even have enough $$$ to be in the top half of the MAC. Between urban populations, median household incomes and local business revenues - we're a bottom 1/3 of D1 program. This is our reality given the new normal.

You can argue this team is bad. It is.
You can argue Boals hasn't done a great job this year. I'd agree.
But Boals HAS done a good to above-average job in his tenure here....and I guarantee that if you fire him, unless money bags McGee shows up with the new HC, the results will only get worse not better.
This is becoming a lazy argument with each season. Simmons’ agent is my classmate and he got a 6 figure deal to come here. He left a conference rival with a practice facility for Athens. You know, the same school we just lost to Tuesday (again) despite poaching its best player from a season ago.

We’re not flush with cash, but we’re certainly not crying poor either. Our entire portal class this past cycle consisted of 3 starters from better teams a season ago. Which of the top MAC schools could have said this in May? Breath came from a better conference as a 2 year starter and has gotten worse. Pending how you viewed the SBC, Connors has also gotten worse since coming here. This isn’t an NIL problem, it’s a coaching and roster construction problem.

On the flip side, Kent and Akron continue to remain at the top of the MAC with 4 year players like Gillespie, Lyles, and Johnson taking massive leaps this season. They’re all looking like 1st Team All MAC players. That isn’t NIL, that’s coaching and player development.

Boals hasn’t had a 4 year player of his own take that kind of stride during his entire tenure here. AJC went from preseason MAC POY to finishing on the 3rd team last year. Thats as close as it’s gotten. Sears was the last 1st Team player we had. But sure, a lack of money has caused this.

You don’t think in this era part of the vetting process includes how a coach will raise NIL? Regardless, give me someone who recruits all verticals, can develop, and actually runs a system to give us an identity. Something we haven’t had the last 4 seasons.

This program won’t be worse off without Boals because it isn’t very good with him and becoming more painfully obvious 20/21 was lightning in a bottle.
Agree completely. Since 2020, we've had more players on All MAC teams than anybody but Toledo. The idea that everybody better than us is buying talent we can't get just isn't well-supported.

We all watch it game-to-game. Players don't develop, rotations are baffling, and he's unable to consistently put the right role players around our best players.

The results are pretty hard to debate at this point.
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Alan Swank
1/17/2026 9:13 AM
mid70sbobcat wrote:expand_more
Funny reading all the comments. But for example, an unnamed poster worshipped Groce. Groce won 60% of his games at Ohio. That's decent. And what about Boals? Oh, he's won 59+% of his games. Statistically the same. I don't think the Ohio administration is going to fire a coach winning 60% of his games because a handful of fanatics, are ranting on a Bobcat fan site. These kids are in Athens to get an education. There is a reason I believe they are called student-athletes. More important things in life than a "game".
I can't remember the last time I heard the term "student athlete." That ship sailed a long time ago. Heck, there was a guy on the Ball State team last night on his fifth school.

As for Groce, two MAC tournament titles in four years, three NCAA wins, and a couple of inches from an elite 8 appearance in 2012. Yes, league titles are important but in the MAC, it's the tournament title that gets a team and a school the recognition.
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FearLeon
1/17/2026 9:26 AM
FJC31 wrote:expand_more
Welcome to the current state of college/semi-pro/AAU/always free agent/mercenary/pay for play athletics.

Athens, Ohio and Ohio University do not and will not have enough $$$ to compete. Sadly (and it may vary by sport and by season - and ultimately it may take years 10-12 to fully flesh itself out) - we don't even have enough $$$ to be in the top half of the MAC. Between urban populations, median household incomes and local business revenues - we're a bottom 1/3 of D1 program. This is our reality given the new normal.

You can argue this team is bad. It is.
You can argue Boals hasn't done a great job this year. I'd agree.
But Boals HAS done a good to above-average job in his tenure here....and I guarantee that if you fire him, unless money bags McGee shows up with the new HC, the results will only get worse not better.


This program won’t be worse off without Boals because it isn’t very good with him and becoming more painfully obvious 20/21 was lightning in a bottle.
MIC DROP

+1,000,000
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FearLeon
1/17/2026 9:29 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Funny reading all the comments. But for example, an unnamed poster worshipped Groce. Groce won 60% of his games at Ohio. That's decent. And what about Boals? Oh, he's won 59+% of his games. Statistically the same. I don't think the Ohio administration is going to fire a coach winning 60% of his games because a handful of fanatics, are ranting on a Bobcat fan site. These kids are in Athens to get an education. There is a reason I believe they are called student-athletes. More important things in life than a "game".
I can't remember the last time I heard the term "student athlete." That ship sailed a long time ago. Heck, there was a guy on the Ball State team last night on his fifth school.

As for Groce, two MAC tournament titles in four years, three NCAA wins, and a couple of inches from an elite 8 appearance in 2012. Yes, league titles are important but in the MAC, it's the tournament title that gets a team and a school the recognition.
Alan…people trying to still justify how Groce was/is average to make themselves feel better about this program’s current problems sure is something.
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Clown Ohio Fan
1/17/2026 9:54 AM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
Welcome to the current state of college/semi-pro/AAU/always free agent/mercenary/pay for play athletics.

Athens, Ohio and Ohio University do not and will not have enough $$$ to compete. Sadly (and it may vary by sport and by season - and ultimately it may take years 10-12 to fully flesh itself out) - we don't even have enough $$$ to be in the top half of the MAC. Between urban populations, median household incomes and local business revenues - we're a bottom 1/3 of D1 program. This is our reality given the new normal.

You can argue this team is bad. It is.
You can argue Boals hasn't done a great job this year. I'd agree.
But Boals HAS done a good to above-average job in his tenure here....and I guarantee that if you fire him, unless money bags McGee shows up with the new HC, the results will only get worse not better.
Ohio has enough money to spend in the top half in the MAC. You don't swipe Simmons from Toledo and keep Pavs without having some cash.

We don't have Akron money but lets not act like Kent State or Buffalo have been spending a ton in recent years.

Western Michigan has money but doesn't win. Akron is the only program that I can justify being ahead of OU on a consistent basis. Money might be the name of the game but Ohio has retained a lot of players in recent years compared to their peers. I've seen a lack of development whether that be with rentals or long term players and that falls on coaching.
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M.D.W.S.T
1/17/2026 10:11 AM
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I've been a believer in Jeff Boals from the very beginning. He accomplished something very special taking them to the NCAA Tournament and upsetting Virginia.

However, it's now clear that he doesn't have what it takes to properly navigate things at Ohio in the current landscape of college basketball.

He's had several years and things are going in the wrong direction. Boals has too much faith in the wrong players, doesn't have an identity and has been horrible recruiting and developing players as we've seen Ohio drop far behind Akron, Kent State and Toledo.

I've desperately wanted him to be successful but I've finally given up all hope. I'm still going to root for Ohio to turn things around and finish the season strong but have zero expectations.

I don't believe Ohio will do anything regarding Boals following the season but it's time that they start thinking about what direction we want for OU basketball moving forward and if Boals should still be a part of it.
I haven’t given up hope - but I think this is pretty hard to dispute:

‘Boals has too much faith in the wrong players, doesn't have an identity and has been horrible recruiting and developing players.’

Pretty much sums it up. And I love Boals. I would genuinely be sad to see him go. Not just as a fellow alum, but as a guy. I want him to succeed because he’s not just a coach, he’s one of us. But there is no disputing those 4 simple truths. It makes me more sad than anything to be honest, because I truly feel like we’re approaching a necessary parting. And I don’t want it. But you can’t dispute those 4 basic bullets.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
1/17/2026 10:20 AM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
Welcome to the current state of college/semi-pro/AAU/always free agent/mercenary/pay for play athletics.

Athens, Ohio and Ohio University do not and will not have enough $$$ to compete. Sadly (and it may vary by sport and by season - and ultimately it may take years 10-12 to fully flesh itself out) - we don't even have enough $$$ to be in the top half of the MAC. Between urban populations, median household incomes and local business revenues - we're a bottom 1/3 of D1 program. This is our reality given the new normal.

You can argue this team is bad. It is.
You can argue Boals hasn't done a great job this year. I'd agree.
But Boals HAS done a good to above-average job in his tenure here....and I guarantee that if you fire him, unless money bags McGee shows up with the new HC, the results will only get worse not better.
Dude, last year you responded to every criticism of Boals by insisting that if the team had been healthy, that the 5 man lineup of Elliott/Reef/Brown/Hadaway/Clayton was good enough to win the conference.

Now you're saying that Boals has done a very good job because it's just not possible for him to get the talent to win the league because you've decided better teams in the conference are just more talented because of their budgets.

Hard to understand the consistent logic in your stance here, and understand how this isn't just excuse making for Boals.
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OhioCatFan
1/17/2026 10:47 AM
SBH wrote:expand_more
No inside information here, but with a new AD (who has fundraising prowess)
Not seeing much fundraising prowess thus far. He came from a school that had 1 major in-state competitor. Ohio has 14 state universities. He doesn't know who the donors are, hasn't connected with them, and seems comfortable turning over fundraising to the University Development team on College Green. And those folks aren't interested in building and maintaining the strong base of mid-level contributors necessary to fund a decent NIL pool and/or sensible facility upgrades. They're looking for one-time wins that'll get them jobs at a BIG school.
Just looking at this online resume, which includes this sentence: "Larscheid previously held positions as a fundraiser at South Dakota State University, Northern Illinois University and the University of South Dakota."
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